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Weir, Jenny McMartin

File consists of a recording of Jenny Weir. Topics of the conversation include establishment of Queen's School of Nursing Sciences; division of work (1946) between University and Kingston General Hospital; long wait for integrated course similar to that of U. of T. Small percentage of young or female faculty in post-war years. Hilda Laird as Queen's first female head of Department. Faculty acceptance of two-person nursing faculty; happy singles faculty club. Establishment of Health Sciences division during 1960s. Courses included in Queen's nursing programme; high standards of admission, continuation; employers' high regard for graduates. Benefits of KGH training; room, board, tuition in return for services. Lack of professional clinical instruction to complement practical training, subject's provisions to remedy this. Early Red Cross funding for diploma courses in Public Health nursing (not at Queen's); origin of U. of T. nursing programme. Subject's development (1947) of Queen's Public Health nursing diploma alongside BSc programme. Student bursaries then available. Change to integrated nursing programme recommended, documented, 1960, 1964. Post-war Queen's campus: veteran student population; crowding: 'the School of Nursing replaced the mimeograph machine'. Vibert Douglas' instrumentality in planning School of Nursing. Learning from Jean Royce how to set standards, from Dr. Mackintosh how to administrate. Football as an excellent introductory attraction to campus life, spirit. Differentiation of nursing tam, rejection of sample nursing jacket as 'too masculine'. Responsible nursing student government. Orientation with Levana Society. Growth in nursing student registration. Engineering-nursing social alliance, overtures from Meds students, School of Business; subject's dislike of 'cattledrives', opinion that nurses should behave as ladies and gentlemen. Dr. Wallace's chauvinistic initial announcement of nursing programme. Entrance of men into nursing. Stress on students' mental discipline, problem­ solving abilities, research skills, for coping with changes in medical field; MA, PhD research work as the new norm. Nursing as distinct from medicine, not lesser in kind; reasons for growing number of women doctors, now no longer required to be brilliant, aggressive, exclusively dedicated. Nursing as an intimate service. Teaching, listening functions of nursing; importance of counselling. Cultural sensitivity, co-operativeness of university nurses compared with less educated nurses. Subject's initial loneliness in Kingston, 'not a good place for a single person'; party-giving solution, successes. Subject as first female President of Faculty Club. Omission to marry, not seen as a career sacrifice; reflection on self-uncertainty as young woman, desire to acquire grandchildren through marriage even yet. Interest in political science; discussing politics at Faculty Club, without becoming 'one of the boys'. Administrators as a lonely race; great friendship with Beatrice Bryce in consequence, acquaintance with Vibert Douglas. Full-time teaching load as administrator; approval of administrative teaching, Scottish tradition of senior faculty teaching freshmen. Keeping in touch with students in hospital schools, helping supplement their studies; Nightingale students' push for more arts and sciences courses in nursing programme.//Ontario government policy of reducing patients' hospital time; funds re­ quired for supplementary community clinics, not yet forth­ coming. Value of home care in reducing patients' circumstantial boredom. OHIP controversy; subject's concern for patient of small means, opted-out doctor's problem of bill­collection, possibility of salaried doctors. Profit-motivated company interference in occupational nursing. Special training for industrial nurses. Confidential status of medical records, even in schools; caution in mental health institutions; patient access to, ownership of, medical records; poor safeguarding of hospital records. Ethical difficulties in nursing; infant euthanasia, mid-term abortions; subject's belief in abortion as means of saving patient's life, not as birth­ control. Nurses' need for support systems while working in emotionally difficult areas; danger of blocking off emotional faculties, giving merely physical care. Terminal patient 'communities'. Private-duty nursing, inclusion in hospitals. Nursing research into improved care; clinical nurse specialists; nursing administration, leadership. Specialisation, diversification of nursing function. Mention throughout tape of Evelyn Moulton, Assistant Director of nursing in later years at Queen's.

Weir, Jenny McMartin

Uprichard, Muriel

File consists of a recording of Muriel Uprichard. Topics of the conversation include TAPE ONE Early childhood memories; ability to read before school, boredom with early schooling, voracious reading at public library. No-nonsense public schooling, concentration on three Rs, thorough grounding in English grammar (contrast with literary incompetence today). Pitiful horror at corporal punishment. Ability of teachers to handle large classes by authoritative method; resultant boredom for quickminded students (no creative outlet). Well-to-do family life throughout WWI, 1920s; father as high-class innovative store equipment supplier (first supplier of refrigerated butchers' counters in Regina);vivid memory of stockmarket crash ('we have no money; I have lost every penny'). Mother's vulnerable position of having just spent $1200 to outfit daughters; father's advice to keep the clothes, they might not see anything good again for the next ten years; two sets of good Scottish skirts and sweaters (darned, mended, several times resewn) thus brought by subject to Queen's. Pre-crash desire to attend university, parents' support; father's suggestion of Queen's (through own thwarted desire to attend Queen's Univ., Belfast); attendance normal school after stock market crash as only available option. Fascination with English literature, desire to become a writer. Normal school year as life's most boring, useless experience. Shock as prairie schoolteacher of discovering poverty of lives without indoor bathroom, books, bible; personal library of Shakespeare, Browning, bible, Untermeyer's anthology of modern poetry, Darwin's Origin of Species. Acceptance of sole school offered (influx of farmer's ex-teacher wives into Depression teachers' market), remote one-room schoolhouse (planned for 36 children, housing 58) with children in each grade from 1-11, including 21 children of kindergarten age, 11 newly­-immigrated non-English-speaking Russian Mennonites. Horse-riding lessons from local wealthy Americans' daughter; boarding residence with farmer, payment for board and use of horse; receipt of $400 annual salary in IOU vouchers from provincial government; annual debt of $264 to farmer for board. Strict fundamentalist outlook of Unreformed Russian Mennonites, belief in passive acceptance of suffering as just punishment for sin. Two neighbouring English families (graduates of Cambridge and Oxford) sent to prairies after WWI by Soldiers' Resettlement Board. Local epidemic of infectious traucoma (eye disease causing hardening of eyelid, abrasive blindness); Govt. of Saskatchewan Mobile Health Unit visit to school, parents' response of keeping chidren home; compulsory rounding up of children by Mounted Police, painful washing of each eye with silver nitrate. Subject's responsibility for administering eyedrops to each child three times daily (parents couldn't be trusted to comply); responsibility for teaching cleanliness to children unaccustomed to wash, extortion of washbasins from impoverished school board; regular swabbing of desks, pencils, with rubbing alcohol. Success of health routine, instilment of doubt in children's minds regarding parents' fundamentalism, feeling of accomplishment. Intervention on behalf of crippled girl (having ascertained available free treatment in Regina); attempt to argue with fundamentalist father, resulting in immoveable hostility; sense of defeat. Brilliant intervention of Public Health Nurse: wisdom not to argue, receptive rather than aggressive attitude ('Well, would you like to tell me about it?'); father's explanation (attended to by silently weeping, toothless mother, constantly reproductive for years) that crippled child had been born before wedlock, hence was marked by parents' sin; nurse's ability to hear them out for two hours, with many silences; grandfather's final pronouncement, 'It is not truly sin', handing of hospital papers to father to sign. Partial correction of girl's infirmity, complete reversal of pathologically withdrawn personality; previous unteachable nature, latter ability to learn 'like the wind'. Invaluable support from public health nurse, sound advice on how to cope with teaching situation. Application (while teaching) to Queen's; helpful reply from Registrar Jean Royce, crushing news of $22 per course tuition fees. Surrender of university ambition; follow-up letter from Jean Royce, wondering why Uprichard hadn't replied; confession of poverty; receipt from Royce of course outlines as guides for reading, to 'give an idea what it's all about'.//Acceptance of money from family friend to attend Queen's summer school. Love of Kingston after prairie farm surroundings: graphic descriptions of drought, dust storms, plagues of grasshoppers (grasshopper's taste for anything white, consumption of housepaint, laundry). Casual earnings (partly from writings) during teaching years, spent on Queen's extramural courses; Registrar Jean Royce's supportive bending of rules to permit extra course load during summer school. Completion of maximum number of extramural courses permissible; receipt of salary from Saskatchewan government; payment of debts; departure for Queen's to complete requirements of Honours English programme. Permission (after interview with Jean Royce) to enrol in eight winter courses; hard work on little money; room and board with Professor and Mrs.Knox (very scholarly, supportive of subject's studies); personal support from Jean Royce. Completion of year with straight 'A' standing, first class Honours English degree; surprise at success, self-conceit as 'little green bumpkin from rural Saskatchewan', previous misconception of university standards. Educative value of Saturday evenings spent with intellectual set (as opposed to rowdy, drunken, squaredancing set) in rural Saskatchewan: eclectic education at hands of Jesuit priest, Presbyterian minister, English university graduates; discussion of world affairs. Father's discouragement of literary ambitions (too risky), of ambition to become Professor of English; advice, get into some field where women are wanted. Enrolment in Psychology MA programme at Smith University, making up extra courses in psychology; successful application at behest of Queen's Professor Harrison and Principal Wallace for British Council Scholarship (awarded to only one Canadian student annually, roughly equivalent to Rhodes). Mother's illness, death, during MA year; lack of funds to return home, lack of sense to tell troubles to university administration (which would have funded her trip home). Happy summer employment, for good wages, at University of Saskatchewan summer school, teaching students how to teach in one-room schools. Departure to England (1943) for scholarship PhD programme, dangerous passage on merchant vessel in 64-ship convoy; floating torpedoes, separation from convoy in hurricane, guidance to safety by American air force. Excel­ lent lodgings in heavily bombed area of London; sensations under bombing attacks, 'un-Christian relief' at not being hit. Application to University of London for PhD programme admission; conscription, unsatisfactory summons to armed forces recruiting office; simultaneous request by Department of Health for trained psychologists to deal with evacuee 'problem children'; acceptance of wartime service work with evacuees as basis of PhD research programme, three­ year effort diagnosing problem children, centrally locating them, organizing programmes to help them learn to read and write before critical 'eleven-plus' examinations; innovative efforts to reach through defence barriers of pathologically shy children (similar to crippled girl on prairies). Collection of data enough for twelve PhD theses, invaluable practical experience of psychology; suitability of University of London PhD programme as framework for independent research: absence of coursework, onus on mature individual effort without aid. Distinction between University of London one­ shot long-term PhD effort, North American system of stages in PhD programme (with self-congratulatory breathing spaces in between). Brilliant PhD tutor Professor Hamley.//TAPE TWO Stimulation of University of London student Common Room, 'a liberal education in itself'; thrill of achieving PhD. Job offer from International Council of Nurses (referred to subject by Professor Hamley) to investigate possible uses of Florence Nightingale International Foundation funds; doubtful acceptance after strong encouragement from uncle, Professor Hamley ('you always think you can't do anything'). History of Florence Nightingale International Foundation from institution as memorial fund-raising campaign (1912) for promotion of nursing education, to fatal postponement of application (investment in trust fund) during busy years during and after WWI. Rapid advancement of nursing science after WWI, initiation of Public Health nursing system; institution by League of Red Cross Societies (in connection with Queen's College, first women's college of University of London) of nurses' training school, transferred to Florence Nightingale International Foundation after stock market crash, depletion of Red Cross funds; abandonment after WWII, under criticism that indiscriminate diploma courses for nurses were no longer acceptable. University of London resistance to FNIF proposal of School of Nursing. FNIF involvement in controversy over how nurses should be educated, tour of North American institutes, cataloguing opinions of FNIF participants. Employment as Director of Canadian junior Red Cross, resignation within two years (bored to tears). Positions as consultant to a) Canadian Association of Nurses, b) Metropolitan School, Windsor (experimental two-year nurses' training programme). Recommendation of Pauline Jewett for Canadian Association of Nurses' job, close friendship with Jewett as result of collaboration. Government establishment of regional schools of nursing, Community Colleges, after pattern of Metropolitan School. Authority-accepting mentality of hospital-trained nurses (limitation of experience to hospital trained in, indoctrination into undemocratic hospital system); community college graduate's freer grasp of theory but overconcern with efficiency, chartwork, 'getting the work done'; university graduate's excellent theoretical background, proper focus of attention on the patient's welfare. Hospital discouragement of well-trained unsubmissive nurses as threat to establishment's peace of mind. Ten-year teaching stint at University of Toronto (history of nursing, Educational psychology, 'how do you create a curriculum?'); conviction that patients must cure themselves (by difficult alteration of habits, lifestyle), educational psychology as a matter of teaching nurses the power of inducement. Transfer to UCLA at request of Lulu Hassenplug, great friend first encountered on FNIF tour at Vanderbilt University; Vanderbilt nursing programme as revelation of superiority of American training to England's most rigorous nursing education.// Invitation from clever Dean of Applied Science Liam Finn to direct University of British Columbia foundering School of Nursing; history of school from 1919 (under fascinating director Ethel Johns) to four-year dearth of Directorship candidates in late 1960s (advice never to accept an 'acting' position of any kind). Subject's recreation of nursing programme, increase in enrolment (1970-6) from 200 to 800 students; creation of MA programme; attraction of over one-million dollars in grants. UBC mandatory retirement at 65 (1976); invitation from Concordia University to save its foundering school of nursing; present engagement revising Concordia University School of Nursing, plan to retire after one more year. Concordia's problems of integration as merger of two former colleges: problem of fusing double sets of faculties, administrations; mistake in not fusing administrations first, consequent power-struggles. Possible devotion of retirement period to writing; extensive previous writing, success of Three Little Indians in freshman year at Queen's; writing as internal self-discipline, speculation whether she can will herself to write now. Valuable supply of memories for lifestory; anecdote from prairie school teaching days of resourceful solicitation in nearby pub (illegally entered as female minor) to raise money for desperately-needed school chalk.

Uprichard, Muriel

Ross, S. Marion

File consists of a recording of Marion Ross. Topics of the conversation include McGill Physical Education diploma course, employment with YWCA; resignation in mid-Depression (desirous of degree permitting employment in schools), enrolment at Queen's. Part-time work as university sports assistant; post­graduation inheritance of supervisory position. Former employment in English slum school (Griffintown, Montreal); inability to cope (aet. 20) with juvenile delinquency, switch to YWCA. Enjoyable YWCA work in St. John, 'the friendliest place I've ever been in'; exhausting YWCA work in Brantford; enjoyment (apart from killing hours, poor pay) of working with people, voluntary enrolment of all ages 3-60. Changed aspect of YWCA since 1930s: recent co-operation of YMCA with YWCA, higher pay in combination with higher public fees, decreased responsibility for hard-up women. Part­ student part-staff position at Queen's, service to intramural sports programme as unofficial liaison officer (personally acquainted with Queen's 250 female students); unsatisfactory social life, belonging to neither staff nor student crowd. Success of women's intramural programme (dependent on women's low enrolment in lab courses, availability after Arts lectures for gym from 1 :00 to 3:00pm) preceding School of Phys. Ed.; decline as more women enrolled in sciences, as School of Phys. Ed. took over afternoon slot; programme's death in last year before acquisition of new gym building (virtual restriction of existing gym facilities to School of Phys. Ed., intercollegiate teams). Pat Radcliffe (nee Gardner), most outstanding Queen's student female athlete of subject's acquaintance: all-round sports proficiency, top standing in School of Medicine, also married and keeping house. Ruth Cooper, student athlete of Olympic diving team quality by today's standards; Cooper's unheard-of contribution of 25 points in basketball game against famous Edmonton Grads (women's team of commercial school graduates of international rank, coached by Queen's grad Mr. Page). Dorothy Maclaughlin, allround female athlete and first-class student, member of outstanding basketball team not limited by players' small physiques. Importance to women's intercollegiate sports of Alma Mater Society president Rosemary Bartlett's move (1952) in allotting five-twelfths of women's student athletic fees to constitute women's athletic budget; former position of having to request funds for programmes, never knowing where they stood. Direction of student sports by Athletic Board of Control (for men), Women's Athletic Board of Control (without cooperation except in days of women's requests for funds). Initiation of School of Physical Education (1947) by subject and jake Edwards: post-WWII show of interest by several universities; attendance at Phys. Ed course content conferences; programme proposals to Principal Wallace, Wallace's insistence on undiluted Arts degree for Phys. Ed student (aim to prepare Phys. Ed students as Ontario high school teachers); eventual scheme of three­year Arts programme with extra Phys. Ed 'activity courses', switching to Phys. Ed specialized programmes in fourth year. Demanding 'double' nature of Phys. Ed.-Arts programme, including required sciences; gradual recognition by students, professors, that Phys. Ed. students must be able (reversal of 'dumb jock' image); Dr. Mackintosh's high profile as factor in faculty recognition of Phys. Ed calibre. Non­participation of Phys. Ed. students in 1960s student rebellion, for sheer lack of time. Expanded opportunities for university Phys. Ed graduates following application of university degree requirement to elementary schoolteachers; 'boom' in recreational programmes accompanying society's recognition of need for artificial exercise. Social value of sense of accomplishment gained from sports, easily visible achievement of goals. Pleasure at soccer's coming of age in North America. Team sports as the province of the young, largely unavailable after formal education; reliance on individual sports with age, importance of learning to play them while young. Value of jogging as form of sport open to all, regardless of talent for games. Expense of football as compared with soccer, desire that football programmes in schools should be scrapped.//Queen's football stadium character Alfie Pierce: uncertain means and mode of existence, 'a sort of rat around the stadium'; original status as team water-boy,later janitorial duties; rumour of ill-treatment by family as only Negro member; helpfulness in intimidating children away from archery practice, importance to football graduates as old­time rallying-point. Cookie Cartwright's insistence on re­newing women's intercollegiate hockey at Queen's; subject's difficulty persuading women players (fearful they would lose control over sticks) to wear gloves. Cataraqui Golf Club: scarcity of female members, junior members; women's tendency to join only after raising children. Seemingly normal conditions at Queen's throughout Depression; growth despite financial hardship, 'Dr. McNeill could squeeze a nickle harder than anyone I ever knew.' Discontinuation of intercollegiate sports throughout WWII; partial use of gym as dormitory for soldiers-in-training (well­behaved groups at first, succeeded by rowdies resentful of women students' refusal to date them); fitting of women's gym classes around hourly disturbance of military march of soldiers to and from gym. Women students' Red Cross Corps (uniforms, formal drill, annual inspection by Prof. Earl); motor mechanics course at Barriefield, fun driving convoys till banished by men; women's aptitude for Morse code training. Women's responsibility for carrying on student activities, eagerness for leadership functions once given opportunity. Influx of war-veteran students, rise in level of serious thoughtful study. School of Physical Education: small numbers in first graduating classes, continuing problem of women drop-outs after third year (fourth year seeming too long when teaching positions were readily available). Versatility of Phys. Ed.-Arts degree, valuable ability of Phys. Ed. teachers to switch to Arts at any time. Defence of mandatory thesis component of Queen's School of Phys. Ed. degree.

Ross, Marion

Preston, Lillian, nee Gilbert

File consists of a recording of Lillian Preston. Topics of the conversation include decision not to attend Queen's; KCVI commercial teaching course, ambition to support music studies, eventual teaching. Interview with Dean Clark (Applied Science, Queen's) for sessional stenography position; summer employment typing Physics Prof. J.K. Robertson's book on Perth; rapid appointment as secretary to Dean Clark - 'taking a chance on a very young girl.' ACTM music diploma; ambition to teach music relinquished through dislike of teaching. One-woman Dean's office (Ontario Hall) assisted by single steno (usually lost to Registrar's Office). Dean Clark's teaching activities, retirement (1945); transfer with Dean Ellis to Hydraulics Lab (Engineering & Drawing Bldg.);tiny office, shared telephone arrangements of Secretary and Dean. Ubiquitous presence of 'Buster', Dean Ellis' dog, student habit of feeding him chocolate; first regular office coffee-breaks, facilitated by Dean Ellis' darkroom hot-plate. Transfer (resisted by Dean Ellis) to newly-built Richardson Hall; computerless task of recording marks, 'busy but enjoyable'. Position as organist, St.Paul's church; marriage (1954) to choir member. Pro­ posed retirement to coincide with Dean Ellis' retirement (1955); Dean's untimely death, full of eager retirement plans, first day of spring. Part-time continuation (not as secretary) under Dean Conn; growing number of office staff; full-time position in charge of Student Records following resignation as organist, St. Margaret's Church (1957-65). Tentative engagement as secretary to busy, exacting Dean Uffen; mutual satisfaction of good working relationship. Previous transfer to Ellis Hall (former computer centre) displaced by expanding Arts & Science faculty; office arrangements; contact with students. Change in Dean's role, once academic, now largely administrative; appointment of Associate Dean to help deal with students; Dean Uffen's teaching activities, research work on atomic waste, planned retirement to Geological Sciences Dept. (Arts & Science). Acquaintance with Queen's students during high school days. Change in student attitude from studious to political ('anxious to run the place'); former disciplinary role of the university, present lack of authority; mandatory attendance at 7/8 of classes to qualify for exams, reinforced by seating plan, daily records, Senate 'Short Attendance Committee' (practised late into 1950s). Customary life appointment of Deans, transmuted to term appointment beginning with Dean Conn. Subject's assistance acclimatizing Dean Uffen to Queen's office, community. Practical, decisive character of Engineering administrators. Lack of personal demands made on subject as secretary; belief that employer's personal responsibilities should remain his own; willingness to prepare employer's coffee as natural support service. Effect of computers, once felt as job threat, in boosting employment. Better town and gown relations before WWII (lack of bitter element present now); students as boost to local economy; residents' fear for pet cats when students supplied own sub­ jects for science experiments. Mutual dislike of students, omnipresent soldiers during WWII: difficulty persuading Engineering students (more valuable trained) to postpone enlistment till after graduation. Full-time summer sessions to accommodate veteran students; overworked staff, queered student records, e.g. 'Class of 48 1/2'. Proliferation of married veteran students, working wives, children; crowded accommodation problem; epidemic in basement living quarters (Grant Hall). First admission of female students to Engineering, 1943-4 (not a contentious issue according to regulatory Committee minutes); popularity, failure, of first two entrants; first graduate, transferred from Mt. Allison, as first woman student to sport slacks, to carry gold roses for Convocation (red roses were carried by female Arts graduates); excellence of some female Engineering students. // Dean Clark's advice to Pres. of Engineering Society on text of dinner speech: don't tell a dirty story unless you're sure it's funny - it may fall flat. Generous, eccentric Margaret Austin as creative Sunday School teacher, lenient boarding-house mistress; 'terrific' Principal's secretary Mamie Anglin. Authoritative English professor Wilhelmina Gordon: reputation for colourful driving, possession of sports car; Science students' resentment of strict teaching, insistence on formal student attire. Good salary ($11 weekly, raised to $14) throughout Depression, lack of personal deprivation; memory of hunger marchers en route to Ottawa; scarcity of summer work for students, forced relaxation of summer-work requirement portion of Engineering degree. Improvements in general status of secretaries (increased respect from employers, treatment as equals, more challenging responsibilities); subject's acknowledged, appreciated status as 'partner' in Dean Uffen's office.

Preston, Lillian

Platt, Pauline, nee Vipond

File consists of a recording of Pauline Platt. Topics of the conversation include husband's supportive pleasure in subject's late decision to attend Queen's (alma mater of son, daughter, husband). Extracurricular coursework at University of Toronto before marriage; UTS upgrading courses following decision to at tend Queen's. Love of teaching career pursued before marriage, resumed after raising children. 'Exam nerves' in Queen's history course, 'brave fifty' in French coursework; encumbrance of early hearing aids while attending lectures. Husband's helpful lack of sympathy for failure, admonition to study harder. Husband's illness, sale of family home; lODE offer of free home; discontinuation of study considering husband's housebound infirmity, child's illness. Return to Queen's in late 1960s, following passive period after husband's death; acquisition of nine credits by 1970; temporary cessation of studies, reactivated by imagining husband's verdict, 'just unfinished business'. Completion of degree with seven Theology courses (taken with a grain of objectivity); special enjoyment of Judaism course, with two contentious Jewish students 'to give it a flavour'. Lifting of fees for senior citizens; uncomfortable reaction to not paying for tuition. Exam-writing as an exhausting experience; preference for homework, essay-writing. Happy relations with younger students; minor note of discord struck by professor who disapproved of tape recorder (used to assist deafness). Notetaking assistance from classmate-tutor-friend; solitary essay-writing endeavours, 'my pride and joy'. Possibility of using Queen's recreational facilities, not indulged in. Love of reading, attributed to English schooling: transfer to England during WWI with chaplain father, attendance Peterborough Cathedral school (rising at 5:00am to sound of choirboys' practise, 'I thought surely it was the angels'; blowing mouthful of rice in face of girl who insulted Canada), 'Wordsworth country' Church School for Clergy Daughters (bomb-ridden despite assurances of safety; customary search for Wordsworthian 'Michael's stone; arts-oriented curriculum, lacking science or maths instruction). Return by ship to Canada (1918) with 5000 soldiers; fear of submarine attack. Armistice Day 'talcum powder madness' celebrations in Toronto. Failure of math tests for entrance to Riverdale Collegiate; eventual entrance, matriculation, employment as one-room schoolteacher.//Resignation from teaching upon marriage ('the husbands were to blame for that'); schoolboard's application to husband for permission for wife to supply-teach during bad epidemic ('she can go, but she isn't to be given any money'); subject's acceptance of work for pay. Happy spell as rural schoolteacher in Ernestown. Student beginnings at Queen's (Dept.of Extension); increasing deafness; refusal of work learning to teach the perceptually handicapped. Social frustrations of life as a doctor's wife; husband as lieutenant-colonel with Queen's Medical Corps No.7 during WWII; father-in-law as doctor, short-term Liberal MP; husband's rejection of faculty position at Queen's, preferred work as prison doctor. Inequality of personal suffering during Depression, feeling that Canada escaped lightly compared with United States; subject's naive, insensitive personal behaviour throughout Depression; advancement of religious skepticism by social crises since WWI. Husband's support of subject's volunteer interests ('I think some people thought I shouldn't be out of the house so much'); motivation as do-gooder (Historical Society, Girl Guides, local Council of Women, etc.). Ambivalent attitude to women's movement: non-sympathy with aggressive liberation; admiration for Flora MacDonald, Agnes MacPhail; belief in natural distinctions between abilities of sexes; implied belief in women's domestic responsibilities, support for women who are 'free' for non-traditional roles, 'capable' of them; superiority of Florence Nightingale who was 'revered and loved'. RespectfuI admiration for fellow senior citizen Queen's graduate Helen Campbell.

Platt, Pauline

Cartwright, Katherine (Cooky)

File consists of a recording of Katherine Cartwright. Topics of the conversation include athletic prowess; French degree at Queen's; homesickness following acceptance to teach in Jamaica; legal study. Subject's individualism; falseness of 'female lawyer' stereotyping. Competitiveness of today's law students. Differing skills required by law school, actual law practice. Co-practise with father; mother's ten-year stint as law librarian. Increasing number of women law students; suspected hiring discrimination against women lawyers. Kingston's social strata: erosion with city growth, advent Alcan, Dupont industries; town-university relations. Rural enrolment as a partial factor in Queen's student coolness to political issues of 1960s. Brief history of women's hockey in Canada: intercollegiate league from 1890s; mother's participation c. 1916; excellence during 1920s, 1930s; disappearance c. WWII. Need for proper written history of women's hockey. Development till resumption of intercollegiate hockey in 1960s; subject's participation as player, coach. Red Barons. Youth at present seen as organisation­spoiled: no initiative. Subject's youthful realisation that she wouldn't compete in NHL as her sole female inhibition. Kim Ferguson, classically disadvantaged female hockey star. Sue Thompson. Lawyer Geraldine Tepper. Subject's predominantly marital practice, avoidance of commercial law. Problem of specialising too early in career; belief that specialisation should occur during practice. Decision not to have children. Unawareness of discrimination against her as a female lawyer; dislike of client sexual discrimination in her favour. Tendency to hardheartedness, objective thinking; gratitude to mother as open, tolerant figure. Retrospective view of self as hyperactive, disapproval of repressive treatment of hyperactive children. Early legal environment, recollection of sitting in judge's chair. Detrimental effect of violence in hockey on public attitude to women's hockey; hockey as it should be played, according to rule. Bodychecking; prohibition of bodychecking in women's intercollegiate hockey, not in public leagues. Quebec hockey as example of good skaters resulting from strict calls; facemasks as an evasion of referee responsibility; injuries as the common result of stickwork, not bodychecking. Proven ease of adjustment to regulated hockey. WHL-NHL merger; injustice of draft conditions. Conacher's The Death of Hockey. Cartwright's Point subdivision: father's tree-cutting restrictions. Childhood relations among Army children; example of Army economic stupidity; hierarchy among Army children; Army school.

Cartwright, Katherine (Cooky)

Bagshaw, Elizabeth

File consists of a recording of Elizabeth Bagshaw. Topics of the conversation include secret decision to study medicine; registration with male students at U of T. medical school. Drs. Stowe, Trout, Henderson, Cullen. Father's death; co-practice in Toronto with Dr. Skinner Gordon. Removal to Hamilton, 1906, as fill-in for Mabel Henderson. Rental horse-and-rig for housecalls; playing tricks on horse-proud Jack Griffith. Use of bicycle for frequent night-calls, maternity calls; VON assistance at home births. Depression period; establishment of birth control clinic, 1932. Adoption of John, despite restrictive adoption policies (no single women, women over 40). Disapproval of unmarried co-habitation, too many abortions. Bringing round St. Joseph's Hospital staff to accept work in birth control; Catholic bishop's annual graduation harangue against planned parenthood workers as 'devils and heretics'; Quebec as example of effective planned parenthood. Fundraising teas for birth control clinic, participation of Hamilton social elite; absence of legal interference with birth control work. Early women doctors in Hamilton; female doctors' preference for urban practices; failure of women's medical societies. Deaths of Drs Davis and Henderson. Discrimination against Toronto female doctors by male colleagues; foundation of Toronto Women's Medical College. Enjoyment of Hamilton status as 'one of the boys'. Disagreement with male colleague. Dislike of John Munro. Women's medical schools at Toronto and Queen's; Hamilton as leader in preventive medicine; doubtful value of much current medical research. //Subject's recent ailments, cures; recent poor experience in hospital. Approval of OHIP and Canadian medical working conditions. Former professional expectation that female doctors would quit upon marriage. Dr. Shortt. Social activities, work with Canadian Federation of Medical Women. Dr. McVean. Holiday travels. Why women study nursing, not medicine: to marry doctors. Opinion that nurses performed better in old days; description of former inferior equipment and supplies.

Bagshaw, Elizabeth